Daikin climate support?

[MvQuast]

Hi,

I really love this project, thanks to all who are working on this.
The idea behind this is to control TRVs and combining them with better sensor data within this room. By chance: did ever someone tried this with Daikin (or other HA-integrated climate devices). Challenge - as with TRVs - is, that internal temp sensors are usually much higher than other Aqara temp sensors - so adjustment makes sense...

Thanks
Marcel

[Xander-V]

Interesting idea, however I was told the internal sensor of the Daikin already uses a calculated offset that is relative to the hvac mode and has ai learning using a non released algoritm... The internal software is already taking into account that the sensor measuring the air around the unit will always be higher or lower than the room temperature.

At the moment I use the Daikin integration to only set the temperature and ECO heat mode (or cool) with HA to certain fixed values during the day using the scheduler component by niels faber. Since the aircon will turn itself off when the required setpoint is reached and turn back on with a hysteresis (reverse when in cooling mode), the only thing I needed to find out by trial and error were the required fixed values, no further control needed since it does that by itself.

So for now the only dynamic part is choosing the heating or cooling schedule/setpoints depending on the period of the year.

value_template: {{ ( now().month == 10 and now().day >= 15) or ( now().month in [11,12,1,2] ) or ( now().month == 12 and now().day <= 15) }}

I intend to include the weather forecast in it, something like this might be more efficient: IF max forecast T for today is below 15 degrees, SET to heat, IF above 20 degrees SET to cool, in between simply don't use, something like that.

[MvQuast]

Hi, unfortunately, I see different values in here: Daikin exposes indoor and outdoor temp, and a set temperature. None of them is correct, because the indoor part of this climate cannot know how big a room might be. For me, I observe the following: Indoor: 22C Outdoor: correct value of e.g. 10C Set temp: 19C Aqara Temp Sensor (within this room): 20.7 - 21.1C (relatively constant) So my “mental model” is to set temp on Daikin always 2C below expected temp. Ideally, I would love to transfer this knowledge to Better Thermostat “devices”, but I cannot manually calibrate them. All automation around calibration leads to having “set temp” going up to 26C or above, which then almost instantly leads to overheating the room. A climate gives you the power to get these temperatures within minutes, it’s not a slow heating. Any thougths around manual calibration or doing this via config? All other sensors can be added to a BT configuration – internal/external temp, door/window sensors Best, Marcel Von: Xander-V ***@***.***> Datum: Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2023 um 03:24 An: KartoffelToby/better_thermostat ***@***.***> Cc: Marcel von Quast ***@***.***>, Author ***@***.***> Betreff: Re: [KartoffelToby/better_thermostat] Daikin climate support? (Discussion #847) Interesting idea, however I was told the internal sensor of the Daikin already uses a calculated offset that is relative to the hvac mode and has ai learning using a non released algoritm... The internal software is already taking into account that the sensor measuring the air around the unit will always be higher or lower than the room temperature. At the moment I use the Daikin integration to only set the temperature and ECO heat mode (or cool) with HA to certain fixed values during the day using the scheduler component by niels faber. Since the aircon will turn itself off when the required setpoint is reached and turn back on with a hysteresis (reverse when in cooling mode), the only thing I needed to find out by trial and error were the required fixed values, no further control needed since it does that by itself. So for now the only dynamic part is choosing the heating or cooling schedule/setpoints depending on the period of the year. value_template: {{ ( now().month == 10 and now().day >= 15) or ( now().month in [11,12,1,2] ) or ( now().month == 12 and now().day <= 15) }} I intend to include the weather forecast in it, something like this might be more efficient: IF max forecast T for today is below 15 degrees, SET to heat, IF above 20 degrees SET to cool, in between simply don't use, something like that. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<#847 (comment)>, or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AJYW7BWHW3PBZNHX3YDGBI3WQTNNVANCNFSM6AAAAAATPWFRSM>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>