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Improvements on Tsakonian keyboard #3268

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jgchaparro opened this issue Jan 2, 2025 · 5 comments
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Improvements on Tsakonian keyboard #3268

jgchaparro opened this issue Jan 2, 2025 · 5 comments

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@jgchaparro
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jgchaparro commented Jan 2, 2025

Following Kostakis' orthography for the Tsakonian language, the characters used for Tsakonian sounds th, ph and kh use an accent mark instead of a dot. These should be modified to τ̇, π̇ and κ̇ and their capital counterparts. Additionally, the mark τ͡σ is absent from the keyboard.

Could these be added? Happy to provide further details on the matter.

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LornaSIL commented Jan 6, 2025

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@jgchaparro can you explain exactly what is needed? Is it U+0314 that should change to U+0307?
Should U+0361 be added to the keyboard for use in multiple ways or should one key output U+03C4 U+0361 U+03C3? Can you point me to further details? I'm not seeing an official orthography here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsakonian_language#Writing_system but I do see the use of BOTH U+0314, U+0307 and U+0361.

@Runeboard can you check with Mr. Astle if this change is acceptable? I believe you originally uploaded this keyboard.

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@LornaSIL After closer inspection, it is indeed correct to use the rough breath marks over π, τ and κ sounds as stated in Kostakis' orthography. Using dots for those letters is not covered in Kostakis' orthography notes.

As stated, there is no agreed official orthography. Kostakis' one is the most widely used among Tsakonian academic works, such as the Dictionary of the Tsakonian Dialect or the more recent book To preserve our language.

As for τ͡σ, one key should output U+03C4 U+0361 U+03C3 since the liaison is only used on that specific sequence. For reference, the phonetic symbols section in To preserve our language, which uses Kostakis' orthography, includes that combination. Although its use by speakers is disputed, it is employed in works like this and would represent a step forward towards the completeness of the keyboard.

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LornaSIL commented Feb 3, 2025

@Runeboard this seems to have had some research into the changes. Later this week I'll plan to change τ̇, π̇ and κ̇ and their capital counterparts to use the rough breathing marks and add a key for τ͡σ. Let me know if this is not acceptable.

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jgchaparro commented Feb 4, 2025

As a final note, it would be needed to add the capital counterpart of τ͡σ too, which should correspond to U+03A4 U+0361 U+03C3 (capital Τ + liaison + σ).

Thank you for looking into this matter.

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