Find relevant resources to model

[azaroth42]

We should all try to find relevant resources that we have which would be able to be described using the model, that relate to O'Keeffe. Please list in comments below :)

[ajs6f]

http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=O%27Keeffe%2C+Georgia

Lots of archival material (letters to and from), photographs of, etc. I'm not learned enough in GOK lore to know what would be more or less useful.

[atiro]

https://collections.vam.ac.uk/search/?listing_type=imagetext&offset=0&limit=15&narrow=1&extrasearch=&q=Georgia+O%27Keeffe&commit=Search&quality=0&objectnamesearch=&placesearch=&after=&before=&namesearch=&materialsearch=&mnsearch=&locationsearch=

Stieglitz photographs donated by the Georgia O'Keeffe Foundation

[beaudet]

https://api.nga.gov/art/objects.json?id=60036&id=60157&id=60166

Some objects from the Stieglitz Keyset where O'Keefe is the subject (we apparently have about 300 of those).

[rasvaan]

We don't have any works by O'Keeffe in our collection. We do have works by Stieglitz:
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken?p=1&ps=12&involvedMaker=Alfred+Stieglitz&st=Objects
and one by William Merrit Chase:
https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken?p=1&ps=12&involvedMaker=William+Merrit+Chase&st=Objects
Some books related to O'Keeffe in our library catalogue:
https://library.rijksmuseum.nl/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?type=opac&op=do_search&q=an=85589

[ghost]

YUAG has some works by O'Keeffe and some photograhs with O'Keefe as the subject:
what is the best way to share the data? I don't have much experience with JSON-LD, but can deliver XML?
https://artgallery.yale.edu/collection/search/%22georgia%20o%27keeffe%22

[ajs6f]

@yervangcohen XML is great-- all is welcome. Are you comfortable making a YUAG folder in this repository and putting your data there or shall I assist?

[ghost]

@ajs6f help please :) as i have zero github skills. Should I use a particular schema? I'm new to LOD but am familiar with LIDO?

[ajs6f]

@yervangcohen What do you have in hand right now?

[ghost]

@ajs6f XML with our local CMS schema/TMS

[ajs6f]

@yervangcohen @edgartdata I don't know much about Yale, but is it possible to use the transforms that the Center for British Art used for AAC for YUAG data?

[edgartdata]

@ajs6f @yervangcohen The YCBA's RDF AAC transform is predicated on starting from LIDO XML. @yervangcohen Can you give me a sense of when you will have these records?

[JChoiMMA]

We have works by and depicting O'Keeffe
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search#!?q=Georgia%20O'Keeffe&perPage=20&sortBy=Relevance&offset=0&pageSize=0

We have a dress donated by O'Keeffe
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/99579

We also have an essay about her.
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/geok/hd_geok.htm

[azaroth42]

We have 144 photographs of Georgia O'Keeffe, taken by Stieglitz.

[karinanw]

We have works by and depicting O'Keeffe: https://philamuseum.org/search?q=O%27Keeffe&cat=collection&from=0&size=12

And archival records in a few collections: https://pmalibrary.libraryhost.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&op%5B%5D=&q%5B%5D=O%27Keeffe&limit=&field%5B%5D=&from_year%5B%5D=&to_year%5B%5D=&commit=Search

• I'm not very confident these search URLs are stable so here's hoping.

[danieltbrennan]

https://artmuseum.princeton.edu/search/collections/beta?query=o%27keeffe

2 works by O'Keeffe:

• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/14878
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/33952

5 photographs that depict O'Keeffe:

• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/12057
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/14456
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/42020
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/11962
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/12053

3 photographs that depict works by O'Keefe:

• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/11558
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/11559
• https://data.artmuseum.princeton.edu/objects/51458

[lynnlinked]

13 works by O'Keeffe in MoMA's collection
https://www.moma.org/artists/4360

53 MoMA exhibitions which included works by O'Keeffe
https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/history?constituent_id=4360&locale=en&sort_date=closing_date

(19 results in the finding aids of MoMA Archives)

[karinanw]

Per our discussion today about what the showcase audience would find compelling, I asked an american art curator for questions about O'Keeffe they wish technology could help them answer. This was their response:

"My questions would bend in the direction of materials—what pigments, paper, other materials she used. I’m not sure this is a question your kind of technology can answer. Would also be interested in patronage questions—who bought her work, when, what was price paid—not sure if data is available!"

[lynnlinked]

We should be able to answer interesting patronage questions with the available provenance data. Who were the first buyers? Re Museums: Gifts versus Purchases, when and where?
We would have to include de-accessioned works but this, on the other hand, can create interesting links. MoMA for example exchanged works that were gifts from collectors with the artist in the 1930/40s and these deaccessioned works might be in other museum collections today. The works that were part of one specific exchange should be identifiable and ideally linked across collections as they share a provenance event and knowing the works is the only way to analyze the exchange that took place ...

[edgartdata]

https://collections.britishart.yale.edu/vufind/Record/3625201 Gift of Georgia O'Keefe, Stieglitz Archives, transfer from the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library and the Yale University Art Gallery

[SamiNorling]

Sorry for the late addition of the IMA contribution, but here it is:

We have three works by O'Keeffe:

http://collection.imamuseum.org/results.html?name=O%27Keeffe,%20Georgia

Two by Stieglitz:

http://collection.imamuseum.org/results.html?name=Stieglitz,%20Alfred

And even more from her network, if we go into that.

I will be able to provide the JSON-LD in the next few weeks.

[infopetal]

I'm arriving to this discussion late and am relatively new to the fortnightly calls, so I am not sure to what extent bibliographic materials or anything related to the Texts and Documents model would be of interest for the Georgia O'Keefe showcase. (I recognize for the most part the thinking of Linked Art is that other initiatives such as BIBFRAME will be best suited to represent bibliographic materials, although has raised the internal question within the Frick's work on LD4P as to how to indicate that a book or pamphlet might have a related event such as an exhibition or auction, which BIBFRAME is less robust in representing.) That being said, in addition to any materials that my colleague John may be able to share from our Frick Photoarchives, the Frick Art Reference Library has about 115 catalogs/pamphlets related to exhibitions of O'Keefe works. Even if exhibition catalogs/pamphlets exceed the scope of the showcase/this phase of Linked Art, I'd be happy to try to find a way to share an export of this data for the purposes of cross-referencing it with the exhibition history spreadsheet that @lizneely is working on that includes MoMA contributions from @JonathanLill. Any thoughts?

[ajs6f]

Hi @infopetal, welcome! I think you're right about the relationship between Linked.Art and other vocabularies: if we cannot use different vocabularies together that way, than we are making exaggerated claims for what linked data can actually do and we have that problem.

But links are enriching especially when they extend across domains (e.g. media). I'm not a curator or in any way a scholar of art myself; do you have ideas about how links between art objects and catalogs or pamphlets could be used to show something new that Linked.Art (or Linked.Art and BIBFRAME) can do?

[infopetal]

Thanks for the welcome @ajs6f! I think exhibition catalogs and ephemera (such as pamphlets and checklists) are a good example as in a linked data environment, someone might want to indicate there is a connection from an information resource (which might be represented by a media-specific model, i.e. BIBFRAME for bibliographic resources) and its related exhibition (represented in Linked Art). I am tangentially part of conversations led by colleagues at the Frick who are developing an auction/exhibition catalog profile for BIBFRAME, and while BIBFRAME has a model for events and a way of expressing a relationship between a BIBFRAME "work" and an event, events such as exhibitions are not its focus. Furthermore, a link from an information resource to a related exhibition would ideally be reciprocal or query-able so that a person looking at a particular exhibition would be able to see that there are related information resources and how to access them, as otherwise this can be difficult given the current lack of standardization in how libraries and archives refer to exhibitions.

MoMA has done work to centralize and digitize information resources related to their exhibitions, so their site can serve as an example of why this might be useful. Here is their exhibition page for Paintings by 19 Living Americans, which included O'Keefe. And here is the Frick's record for the exhibition catalog in our library's current MARC-based system. In a non-linked data environment, there are best practices for referring to exhibitions when creating records for exhibition catalogs, but ultimately these will be in more free form 5xx Notes fields in MARC and will vary according to local cataloging practices. URIs for exhibitions created using Linked Art could theoretically be a way that as libraries and archives transition from their current non-linked cataloging practices to representing their collections with linked data, cross domain links could be made that enhance the information about both the exhibition and related information resources.

Admittedly, this conversation may be premature for the showcase, but if/when some sample data might be useful, I can share some MARC records for O'Keefe-related catalogs.

[ajs6f]

@infopetal Rest assured that this conversation is not premature. In fact I think it's very good that we are speaking about how to connect information across vocabularies no later than we are. But I think I may have written a bit unclearly; I was not asking about what catalogers, curators or other GLAMs professionals would do with this kind of link. I was asking about what museum patrons or students or researchers would do with such links; the other side of the desk, so to speak. 😁

In other words, who are you imagining coming to a page or app or display with both "artistic" and "bibliographical" (for lack of better terms) information (linked, of course!) and what are they going to do that they couldn't do with only one kind of information?