Add Gemini support #264
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@tats gemini is a protocol that embodies one of the major pillars of the engineer's philosophy: "Small is beautiful". This is from Drew DeVault, creator of sway, aerc, sr.ht, scdoc, etc. To me, w3m itself is in a way like www to gopher/gemini, and with this patch, w3m can use www, gemini, and gopher, a similar protocol already supported by w3m, without switching, so gopher /gemini fans will be very comfortable. Please consider merging the patches in a positive manner. |
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It would be great, though, if a patch could render not only links but also the basic tags, like blockquotes and headings. Random example URL: gemini://idiomdrottning.org/moving-the-macguffin |
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What are the chances of Gemini evolving and the maintenance required for this? Is it stable?
Will it ever land compression? I'd be curious if it's actually lighter than a Brotli-compressed HTML file written in a simple style. |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 07:06:25AM -0700, 097115 wrote:
It would be great, though, if a patch could render not only links but
also the basic tags, like blockquotes and headings.
Headings is already on my TODO list, see the linked blog post.
With blockquotes you mean preformatted mode, I guess. Besides not
breaking long lines, I don't see anything special to do in a text-mode
browser. How to deal with long lines in preformatted mode will be added
as an option.
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@toastal Sorry, what I wrote was not a good explanation.
For more information, please refer to the following. |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 07:08:56AM -0700, toastal wrote:
What are the chances of Gemini evolving and the maintenance required
for this? Is it stable?
The last update to the specs was over a year a ago. Given that the whole
project is less then four years old I'd call this pretty stable. And keeping
the spec simple was a design goal of Gemini.
> it is extremely valuable because of its ability to greatly reduce data
Will it ever land compression? I'd be curious if it's actually lighter
than a Brotli-compressed HTML file written in a simple style.
I doubt that it will ever get compression, see my comment above. But is
difficult to make predictions, especially about the future. ;)
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No, I -- or, actually, Gemini itself -- mean the actual blockquotes, which are represented by the leading |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 08:31:26AM -0700, 097115 wrote:
@rkta
> With blockquotes you mean preformatted mode, I guess.
No, I -- or, actually, [Gemini
itself](https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/gemtext.gmi) -- mean the
actual blockquotes, which are represented by the leading `>` (and are
similar to the HTML's `<blockquote>` tag). They are also sort of on
your TODO list, but without implementing all these basic things, the
Gemini pages aren't really readable (see the sample link in my first
comment above, for instance).
I see, we are talking about Quote lines. Yes, this (and all other line
types mentioned in the spec) will be addressed before I submit a patch
set upstream.
Just to be clear: The linked patch is an early version. I did the
minimum to do what I need. That's why this is an issue - not a PR.
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Except they are called exactly blockquotes in the documentation but whatever :) Thanks for your comment and for the roadmap nonetheless :) |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:34:18AM -0700, 097115 wrote:
> I see, we are talking about Quote lines
Except they are called **exactly** blockquotes in the documentation
but whatever :)
You triggered the nerd in me. ;)
I found docs talking about blockquotes - *but* to quote
https://gemini.circumlunar.space/docs/specification.gmi
| 5.5.3 Quote lines
Let's say we both were right :)
Thanks for your comment and for the roadmap nonetheless :)
You are welcome! And thanks for the feedback - it helps to know that
people care.
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...Which is because they are specifically talking about the line-oriented structure in this part -- and call links "link lines", headings "heading lines", etc. But somehow we don't really use that terminology, do we? :) |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 11:51:47AM -0700, 097115 wrote:
> | 5.5.3 Quote lines
...Which is because they are specifically talking about the
line-oriented structure in this part -- and call links "link lines",
headings "heading lines", etc. But somehow we don't really use that
terminology, do we? :)
Well... But anyways, let's stop spamming people. If we ever meet in
person I'll get you a beer and we can discuss this in more detail. ;)
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One more vote for this. Nice to see my 23 year old "Toyota Corolla" also support gemini. Just my 2 cents as a proficient user of w3m, but not a programmer. I have extensevely tested and used many gemini clients. Another excellent option very confortable for w3m users, who want to try gemini is "telescope". Awesome work by Omar Polo, https://telescope.omarpolo.com, https://github.com/omar-polo/telescope |
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 07:06:25AM -0700, 097115 wrote:
It would be great, though, if a patch could render not only links but
also the basic tags, like blockquotes and headings.
Random example URL: gemini://idiomdrottning.org/moving-the-macguffin
I updated the patch to indent blockquotes with 4 spaces (same as with
HTML blockquotes).
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Looks nice, thanks :) |
I'd like w3m to support the Gemini protocol0.
I already wrote a patch1 to add it.
This issue is mostly to make others aware and get some feedback if this
is useful for them.
@tats, would you be willing to add this feature?
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