Not really useable on XP due to extreme CPU usage

[NoNameNeeded5]

I do understand that it's still a very early stage as far as XP compatibility is concerned but I thought it's not a bad idea to let you know that it's not really useable on XP.
The CPU usage percentage rarely drops below 80% on a virtual machine.
I can't test it on a real computer right now but I doubt that it would be much better.

[enigma131]

It's complicated to respond without your VM settings and host machine specifications.

[NS-Clone]

I do understand that it's still a very early stage as far as XP compatibility is concerned but I thought it's not a bad idea to let you know that it's not really useable on XP. The CPU usage percentage rarely drops below 80% on a virtual machine. I can't test it on a real computer right now but I doubt that it would be much better.

on real computer is about 50...80%
and XP can work on "powerful" 2014 year hardware with better results

some sh!t sites used 100% on both supermium and mypal...

[docrR]

Closing this, as there are literally no details about the hardware/VM configuration. Chromium browsers have lacked HW acceleration on XP systems since 2014, which does attribute to the elevated CPU usage. In those days, multimedia-heavy content was offloaded to Flash Player, so the lack of acceleration was not as apparent. It is also true that XP, particularly XP x64 (5.2/2003) can run on pretty darned powerful hardware where even the lack of acceleration is notable, but not a showstopper.

To the OP, raise the memory and CPU allocation to your virtual machine. Please be more detailed in future tickets.

[eXPc023]

Reports should be made with real hardware, as that's what web browsers target. Using web browsers on VMs is not practical unless you're doing something hmm... I don't know... Why would people use browsers in VMs?

[andika207]

Why would people use browsers in VMs?

unfortunately most of these annoying persons don't use actual hardware and then complain about Supermium not working flawlessly

https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsxp/comments/11l57nv/how_do_people_here_use_xp_today/

[andika207]

Reports should be made with real hardware, as that's what web browsers target.

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[andika207]

Using web browsers on VMs is not practical unless you're doing something hmm... I don't know...

it would make much more sense the other way round with XP as host and W7 on a virtual machine

[NS-Clone]

Using web browsers on VMs is not practical unless you're doing something hmm... I don't know...

it would make much more sense the other way round with XP as host and W7 on a virtual machine

i hear about wmware? has something guest tools
that makes only guest app window integration in host desktop
without fulll guest desktop gui
is it works/exist on XP + w7guest???

[NoNameNeeded5]

Why would people use browsers in VMs?

unfortunately most of these annoying persons don't use actual hardware and then complain about Supermium not working flawlessly

https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsxp/comments/11l57nv/how_do_people_here_use_xp_today/

I do not have access to a real computer running XP right now.

However, I know for a fact that other browsers will run just fine even in virtual machines, without using 80% of the cpu so I think it has a lot to do with Supermium if it can't be used properly due to its high CPU usage, not so much with the VM.

I don't think it makes me an "annoying person" mentioning that.

(BTW, there are good reasons why people would use browsers in VMs)

[andika207]

I know for a fact that other browsers will run just fine even in virtual machines

why don't you use those other browsers if they work fine then ?

[andika207]

(BTW, there are good reasons why people would use browsers in VMs)

what good reasons do you need a 2024 browser on a VM for ?

[NoNameNeeded5]

@andika207

I'm trying to help improving this browser by providing feedback.
So there is absolutely no reason to call me an "annoying person" just because I wanted to let the developer know that the browser isn't usable on VMs.

I don't feel the urge to provide feedback, if feedback is not required than I'd be happy not to provide feedback at all.

@ALL
About the VM:
Yes, a VM usually behaves different than a real computer.
It is usually more sluggish, less responsive, less snappy, call it what you want.

But still it is very well capable to run browsers without any major problems.
Yes, there might be glitches when you try to watch HD youtube videos or do something else that requires a decent graphics card (not just a VM emulation) etc but in general a browser should work fine, also in VMs.
Especially on a computer that is only 3 years old (and therefore too modern to run Windows XP natively) but also on older computers.

So if a browser uses more than 80% of the CPU resources (on a VM with plenty of RAM that runs on a 3-year-old host PC) with just one tab loaded (google search page) it does say something about the browser.
It says there is something wrong and that it might be a good idea to solve that problem if the developer really wants it to work properly on Windows XP.

@andika207
One good reason to use browsers in a VM would be to click on links that you're not entirely sure about. Links that you think might be dangerous.
On a VM it doesn't matter at all because you can simply turn it off and reset it.
That's not as easy on a real computer.

[andika207]

I wanted to let the developer know that the browser isn't usable on VMs.

the only unusable thing is your virtual machine otherwise it would have been stated on the Supermium website

But still it is very well capable to run browsers without any major problems.

if you know for fact there are other browsers that work fine for you go and use them

Yes, there might be glitches when you try to watch HD youtube videos

ah ok, you want a decent browser to watch YT videos on a virtual machine with XP....

So if a browser uses more than 80% of the CPU resources with just one tab loaded it does say something about the browser.

the browser is what it is and there won't be a special edition exclusively optimized for XP
if you feel it's a resources hog you can can either use real hardware or get the source code and compile a lite version for virtual machines

One good reason to use browsers in a VM would be to click on links that you're not entirely sure about.
Links that you think might be dangerous.

ah ok, you are the typical one who thinks XP gets full of viruses as soon as one turns the router ON.

thanks @docrR for closing this issue. what waste of time.

[NoNameNeeded5]

@andika207

I won't even bother to answer to the crap you wrote.

If the developer doesn't care that his browser isn't working too well on XP, so be it, it's none of my business.
I just wanted to provide feedback.

Your opinion doesn't really matter much to me.