Grouped crates #13978
Grouped crates #13978
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* 20241011 Cues & Loops & Widget for Stems --------- Co-authored-by: Evelynne <[email protected]>
This reverts commit 07c4d99.
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I haven't had a chance to look at the code but I love the idea! This is basically why I haven't used crate as much as I wanted to. I particularly like the fact that this can be based off the name and doesn't need some complex parenting mecanism. Just one early feedback, I think it would be grate to have that as part of the main |
thank you. Can you give me an example where more levels are absolutely needed (I mean it giving an extra value), because that implies more clicking to. I never had crates / music maps / music boxes / playlists divided in more then 1 level. That would mean eg Crates name Techno ///// Industrial //// 125-129 etc would become |
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Like the idea too, probably the easiest easiest/most backwards-compatible way of adding support for nested crates. Making it opt-in to avoid surprises with any particular delimiters is a good idea.
I think it would be really useful to make this configurable, i.e. have an option to support arbitrarily deep nesting. My library heavily relies on this for subgenres, but I can see why this would make the UI too hard to navigate for others. Also, one thought that occurred to me, what do the groups/"folders" present when selected in the library? Do they show the union of all crates below (IMO that would be most useful)? |
You'd prefer a selection between possible delimiters? Can you list some?
Can you write / screenshot some examples?
I was wandering about this to, iTunes makes the Union. But this means recalculating the groups elements each time, even when it's just passing by with up/down ... could be a lot for slower machines and it would make some users unhappy when their machine gets slow. |
No, I think a text box is just fine. What I meant is that we should leave this setting off by default to avoid surprising users that e.g. already use "/" or "-" as part of an intentionally flat crate hierarchy.
For ballroom dances I do something similar:
I think it might be worth benchmarking that. If we can compute the union in a single SQL query, this doesn't necessarily have to be slow, SQLite is pretty good at churning through huge datasets. And given that we're probably "just" dealing with libraries on the order of tens of thousands of tracks (in the common case), I don't see why this should be much more of a performance issue than in other programs like iTunes. |
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I understand, I would have merged some group titles but I do know that it's important that people find themselves 'at ease' . This wil result in an extra sqlsearch like ' select .... where id = 'idOf1stGroupmember' or ... id = 'idOfLastGroupmember'. |
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IMO we shouldn't limit the depth (or at the very least make it configurable) |
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While using pr #14130 I came to the conclusion 'just replacing' crates with 'grouped crates' is not working for me. I closed pr #14130 and made an update for this "grouped crates" pr #13978 with a extra selection in preferences 'replace crates with grouped crates' so that users can select to see only crates / only grouped crates or both (like me). |
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Preferences section for crate groups is a bit garbled at least on my screen: It would be nice to have ability to drag and drop crates from group to another. At the moment moving a crate from group to another requires renaming the crate, which is a bit non-intuitive. I haven't looked at the code, so take my suggestions with a grain of salt. I have no idea how hard it is to implement what I have suggested. IMHO this is definitely step into right direction, and even as-is it would be a useful feature for me, thank you. |
Hi, @TheTerwiz ,
So please excuse me but this is as far as I want to go : grouped crates (grouped playlist & smarties are comming up if I got enough positive feedback 😃 ) Extra advice: dont use spaces around your delimiter, in your case use group1#subgroup2#subsubgroup3#crate1 and maybe use some more signs for the delimiter like ### |
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Screen resolution was 3440x1440. Resizing or maximizing the preferences window did not change the garbled section in any way. I totally understand that my suggestions would be too much of an effort to implement, just giving my two cents. And like I said, it is useful as-is too. Nevermind the delimiter in the screenshot, I tested all kinds of options. :) |
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@acolombier @fwcd (or anyone else) |
This is the solution I proposed in #5634, as it continued spinning in my head since sunday, I had to create it, I couldn't concentrate on anything else. A sideproject.
I hope I can make somebody happy with it.
In this PR I made an extra library feature by analogy to 'history' playlists.
In history playlists, playlists are 'grouped' on the year in creationdate.
For grouped crates you can select in options->preferences->library->grouped crates
to group crates based on a fixed length or a variable length with a delimiter (eg /////)
Grouped crates will make a 'group' for all crates starting with the same defined string.
This is NOT nested crates or multilevel crates, This adds 1 level, a grouping level to the cratesfeature.
For me this 1 level is more than enough but I can imagine that other people need a multilevel structure.
----->>>>>>
Multilevel is added + parent group shows all tracks in member crates and member groups
Selecting a group shows all tracks contained in membercrates.
Multilevel when a variable length (mask) is selected and defined.
eg: if you have crates like
Pop - 60's
Pop - 70's
Pop - 80's
Pop - 90's
you can choose to group on 6 characters, the result will be:
group: Pop -
crates: 60's / 70's / 80's / 90's
or you can choose to use variable length with delimiter ' - ' the result will be:
group: Pop
crates : 60's / 70's / 80's / 90's
the advantage with variable length with delimiter is that the crates
Rock - 60's
Rock - 70's
Rock - 80's
Rock - 90's
New-Wave - 60's
New-Wave - 70's
New-Wave - 80's
New-Wave - 90's
will be processed in the same handling, the result will be
group: Rock
crates: 60's / 70's / 80's / 90's
group: New-Wave
crates: 60's / 70's / 80's / 90's
all crate functions stay the same
groups with only 1 crate (all unique names with no similarity in the beginning of the name) are NOT displayed as a group, but as the crate itself, so you get a mixxx of crates and groups.
20241112 - Eve Mixxx
-> with variable length (mask) groups crates can be multileveled grouped, (sub)groups are only created if group has more then 1 crate, tracks in crates are displayed in all parent (sub)groups, group decoration when track is in one of the (sub)groups member crates.